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After I finished my BA degree, many, many years ago, I started working on my MA, in counseling, psychology, drugs and alcohol, etc., a combination–then I stopped for a period of time, not really knowing what I wanted to do, so I studied theology, read 400-books in 18-months, listened to over 10,000-hours of tapes from every corner of Christendom, Christology–through theology, even went to Haiti, up in the mountains to do some missionary work, only to find out I was not meant to be a missionary, or priest, or clergy, although I did go to a theological university for six months, and studied Old Testament Studies, along with several other courses. But what bothered me was, I shouldn’t say bothered me, it was neither here or there for me, not a big issue, just a thorn in my side, was the controversy around Mary, the mother of Jesus Christ. Why is there even an issue, in that: was Mary a virgin from the day she was born to the day she died? I mean, did she never have sex? Some folks said Jesus had brothers, sisters, and all that kind of stuff. And of course Joseph was a quite father in his time, and I think his time was short, and there is a reason for that, I believe he was an old man when he married Mary. Had a few children of his own, a widower.
Now we all have opinions, and I can’t prove anything beyond a doubt (nor can anyone else), but I can share what I think, and so I shall. If I hurt your feelings, don’t take it personal, it is just as it is an opinion. We shall venture into Joseph, Mary, and Jesus’ life–quickly, and I shall throw some Bible stuff your way, if you like it, do some homework on your own, if you don’t–, file-13 it. Anyhow, I shall put this to rest once and for all:
1) The book of Mark, Chapter 6…and Matthew (Mt.) Chapter (Ch) 13, we see a Carpenter, Jesus, the son of Mary, and a few brothers: James, Joseph, Jude and Simon. And “Are not his sisters here with us….” We now can check out Mt. Ch. 12 & Mark (Mk) Ch. 3 and Luke, Chapter 8, and John Chapter 7. By all appearance, it looks like Christ had some brothers.
But in Bible reading I have learned you have to check out many things, the meaning of words, from the Hebrew to Greek to English, and one must read above and below the point of issue, and there are several other books, canons, not blessed, that can be reviewed; history that was not put into the bible simply because it was not necessary, or so the founding fathers of the bible (s) felt.
2) Let me point out, the Hebrew when he said: “brother” he meant just that: son of the father, as you would expect it to be. Mark wrote his Gospel in Greek and used the word “brother” or to be more exact “adelphos” (adelphos), meaning exactly what I earlier implied: blood related. Now go to John, chapter 20, see what Jesus has to say “…go to my ‘brethern’ (in some bibles brothers). He knew what He was saying. When Jesus said brothern, he meant Disciples. He even points his brothers and sisters out in Matt: 12, Mark 3; In John Chapter 7, it says, “Even his brothers didn’t believe him.”
So you see, we can get confused with the word brother and brothern, but we shall try to straighten this out.
3) The New Testament is pretty upfront about Mary’s character, in that she was a virgin at the time she was born (by the Holy Spirit). Later acknowledged by the Church–that she remained a virgin thereafter; this is part of the controversy: was she or was not? Again I say, it really shouldn’t matter that much (so I feel), but for folks that like poking their nose (like me) into history, it is worth the time.
When I talk in English to someone, I use the term “My brother…” and then the name “Mike” when we say “brother” we usually mean brother–a male sibling sharing both biological parents, this is no big research finding, just a normal everyday thing that has been going on worldwide for a very long time. But to be honest, the term brother has a wider range of meaning: sibling, biological parent, step-brother, male sibling, male sibling adopted, comrade, etc., all depending on the environment, as an issue, one must point this out, in everyday life, this is not all that important–in the overall picture, but perhaps to a few select, that try to make it a big issue to many.
4) So, the question is: did Mary remain a virgin? Aramaic had a strong influence on the New Testament Bible, one point I did not bring out above was, a word for brother can mean ‘cousin’ the Aramaic word aha would have been rendered literally with the Greek word for brother (adelphos), with the new Christians.
We can look also at: were they adoptive brothers, in trying to save Mary’s reputation of being a virgin to her death. This would do it, but I can’t find any evidence to support this. But as a counselor, I’ve learned to keep a clear head, look at what is underneath, not the surface, the surface is always the situation, not the problem or issue, and we are getting close to that.
5) It would seem to me, more likely, they were step-brothers: children of Joseph who were Jesus’ brothers by marriage. That is to say, the manuscript known as the Protoevangelium of James (c. A.D. 120)–indicates that Joseph was a widower who already had a family prior to his marriage to Mary, and therefore was willing to become the protector, or custodian of a sanctified, and set apart virgin. (He was old at the time they married I do believe, and that is why the bible does not go on with Joseph, to the point of him being around when Christ grew to manhood.)
So did Christ have brothers? Perhaps so, if indeed Jesus was the single son of Mary, and James was the only son of Joseph, then Jesus and James would not literally have been brothers, blood brothers that is. When we hear the phrase “brother of Jesus” we must look deep into the well, Matt. 13. You see, the word ‘brother’ meant more than that, or perhaps in this case, less, it did not mean ‘blood’ related (review the: Book of Tobit))for broader meanings)).
6) Perhaps what Eve did, Mary, mother of Christ undid. When I look at this issue I also look at who is saying what. The Church Fathers, believed Mary as remaining a virgin throughout her life; when I say Church Fathers I mean, those who could remember her, perhaps had talked to the apostles (up to the turn of the century, 100 AD or so)) if indeed Christ died about AD 30)). Also, one should look at what Pope Martin I, AD 659 insisted on at the council that she, Mary remain “ever-Virgin,” thus she was already considered that.
7) Another point of contention may be: what did Christ say at Calvary? Did he not say to John: to take his mother home with him, he entrusted her with him, why not with his blood brothers or sisters that would be the norm (John 19). Matter of fact, it was unthinkable for a Jewish mother to go live with a friend after the death of her son, if she had any other children of her own!…
In short, did Mary remain a virgin, after the birth of Christ? And did Christ have brothers and sisters? I feel, and think she did, and I can’t find anything to the contrary. And yes, Christ had brothers and sisters, but I think not blood related.
Written: 4-8-2007 (reedited 4-9-2997)
Spanish Version
María, Madre de Jesucristo
(¿Permaneció ella Virgen?)
Después de obtener mi grado de Bachiller, muchos, muchos años atrás, comencé a trabajar en mi Maestría, en psicología, asesoría, drogas y alcohol, etc., una combinación–después lo dejé por un periodo de tiempo, realmente no sabiendo que es lo que quería hacer, así estudié teología, leí cuatrocientos libros en dieciocho meses, escuché más de diez-mil horas de cintas de todas las esquinas sobre Cristiandad, Cristología–a través de Teología, incluso fui a Haití, para realizar algún trabajo misionero en las montañas, sólo para encontrar que mi vocación no era ser misionero, o sacerdote, o clérigo, aunque fui a una universidad teológica durante seis meses, y estudié el Antiguo Testamento, junto con varios otros cursos. Pero lo que me molestaba era–aunque no debería decir molestaba porque me daba lo mismo, no era una cuestión grande, solo una espina en mi costado–la controversia alrededor de María, la madre de Jesucristo. Por qué incluso es un problema, de que: ¿María fue virgen desde el día en que nació hasta el día en que murió? Quiero decir, ¿Nunca tuvo ella sexo? Alguna gente dice que Jesús tenía hermanos, hermanas, y toda aquella clase de cosas. Y desde luego José era un padre bastante paciente en su tiempo, y pienso además que su tiempo fue corto, y hay una razón para ello, yo creo que él era un anciano cuando se casó con María. El tuvo hijos antes de casarse con María, él era un viudo.
Ahora todos tenemos opiniones, y no puedo probar nada más allá de una duda (tampoco nadie más lo puede), pero puedo compartir lo que pienso, y entonces lo haré. Si daño tus sentimientos, no lo tomes personal, es como es una opinión. Nos aventuraremos en la vida de José, María, y Jesús– rápidamente y mencionaré algunos pasajes de La Biblia en el proceso, si te gusta, realiza una tarea tú mismo, si no–archívalo. De todos modos, pondré esto a descansar de una vez para todas:
1) En el Evangelio de Marcos, Capítulo 6…y en el de Mateo, Capítulo 13, vemos a un carpintero, Jesús, el hijo de María, y unos hermanos: James, José, Judas y Simón. Y “no están sus hermanas aquí con nosotros…” ahora podemos comprobar en Mateo, Capítulo12 y Marcos Capítulo 3, y Lucas, Capítulo 8, y Juan, Capítulo 7. Por todas las apariencias, pareciera como que Cristo tuvo algunos hermanos.
Pero en la lectura de la Biblia he aprendido que tienes que comprobar muchas cosas, el significado de palabras, del hebreo al griego y al inglés, y hay que leer lo mencionado anteriormente y lo siguiente del punto en cuestión (el concepto entero), y hay varios otros libros, cánones, no benditos, que pueden ser revisados; historia que no fue puesta en la Biblia simplemente porque no fue necesaria, o porque los padres fundadores de la Biblia lo sintieron así.
2) Dejarme indicar, que los hebreos cuando dicen: “hermano” quieren decir solamente eso: el hijo del padre, como tú esperarías que ello fuera. Marcos escribió en su Evangelio en griego y usó la palabra “hermano” o para ser más exactos “adelphos”, queriendo decir exactamente lo que antes impliqué: pariente de sangre. Ahora vayamos a Juan, Capítulo 20, veamos lo que Jesús tiene que decir “…anda donde mis hermanos…” Él sabía lo que Él decía; cuando Jesús dijo “hermanos”, Él se refería a sus “discípulos”. Él incluso indica a sus hermanos y hermanas en Mateo, Capítulo 12, Marcos, Capítulo 3; en Juan, Capítulo 7, dice, “Incluso sus hermanos no lo creyeron”.
Entonces tú ves, podemos confundirnos con la palabra hermano, pero trataremos de arreglar esto.
3) El Nuevo Testamento es bastante claro sobre la naturaleza de María, en el sentido de que Ella fue virgen en el momento que nació (por el Espíritu Santo). Más tarde reconocido por la Iglesia–que Ella permaneció virgen desde entonces; esto es parte de la controversia: ¿era ella o no era virgen? Otra vez digo, esto realmente no debería importar mucho (eso pienso), pero para la gente que les gusta indagar en la historia (como yo), vale la pena.
Cuando hablo en inglés a alguien, uso el término “mi hermano…” y luego el nombre “Miguel”. Cuando decimos “hermano” por lo general queremos decir hermano–varón que comparte a ambos padres biológicos, esto no es ninguna investigación grande, solo una cosa normal diaria que existe y continua en el mundo por mucho tiempo. Pero para serte franco, el término hermano tiene una amplia gama de significado: hermano, del padre biológico, el medio hermano, el hermanastro, el hermano adoptado, el amigo, etc. todo esto dependiendo del ambiente, como una cuestión, hay que indicar que esto en la vida diaria no es muy importante–al final, pero quizás si para unos cuantos seleccionados, que intentan crear una cuestión grande para muchos.
4) Entonces, la pregunta es: ¿María permaneció virgen? El arameo tenía una influencia fuerte sobre el Nuevo Testamento de la Biblia, un punto que no recalqué fue, la palabra hermano puede significar “primo” la palabra Aramea ¡ahá! habría sido dada literalmente con la palabra griega para hermano (adelphos), con los nuevos Cristianos.
Podemos ver también en que: ¿eran ellos hermanos adoptivos?, en la tentativa de salvar la reputación de María de ser virgen hasta su muerte. Esto lo haría, pero no puedo encontrar ninguna prueba para apoyar esto. Pero como psicólogo, he aprendido a mantener una cabeza clara, mirar a lo que está debajo, no a la superficie, la superficie es siempre la situación no el problema o la cuestión, y nos estamos acercando a ello.
5) Me parecería, más probable, que ellos eran hermanastros: los hijos de José que se convirtieron en hermanos de Jesús por el matrimonio. Es decir, el manuscrito conocido como el Protoevangelium de James (120 años después de Cristo) –indica que José era un viudo que ya tenía una familia antes de su matrimonio con María, y por lo tanto estaba dispuesto a convertirse en el protector, o el guardián de un santificado, y dejar a la virgen de lado. (Él era anciano en el tiempo en el que ellos se casaron realmente creo, y es por eso que la Biblia no continúa con José, al punto de no estar él alrededor cuando Cristo creció a la madurez.)
¿Entonces Cristo tuvo hermanos? Quizás, si efectivamente Jesús fue el hijo único de María, y James fue el hijo único de José, entonces Jesús y James no habrían sido literalmente hermanos, hermanos de sangre esto es. Cuando oímos la frase “hermano de Jesús” debemos mirar profundamente en el pozo, Mateo Capítulo 13. Como ves, la palabra “hermano” significaba más que eso, o quizás en este caso, menos, esta no significó “familiar de sangre” (revisa el: Libro de Tobit por significados más amplios).
6) Quizás lo que Eva hizo, María, la madre de Cristo lo deshizo. Cuando miro a este tema también miro a quién lo dice. Los Padres de la Iglesia, creyeron que María permaneció virgen toda su vida; cuando digo los Padres de la Iglesia quiero decir, aquellos que podrían recordarla, quizás los que hablaron con los apóstoles ((hasta aproximadamente el primer siglo, 100 años después de Cristo o algo así) (si efectivamente Cristo murió alrededor del año 30 después de Cristo)). También, habría que mirar a lo que el Papa Martín I, en el año 659 después de Cristo, insistió en el Concilio, de que María permaneció “Siempre Virgen “, de esta forma ella ya había sido considerada así.
7) Otro punto de discusión podría ser: ¿qué dijo Cristo en el calvario? No le dijo Él a Juan: que llevara a su madre a su casa con él, Él la confió con él, por qué no con sus hermanos o hermanas de sangre que esa sería la norma (Juan Capítulo 19). De hecho, ¡era inconcebible para una madre judía ir a vivir con un amigo después de la muerte de su hijo, si ella tuviera otros hijos propios!…
En resumen, ¿María permaneció virgen, después del nacimiento de Cristo? ¿Y Cristo tuvo hermanos y hermanas? Siento, y pienso que ella lo fue, y no puedo encontrar nada de lo contrario. Y sí, Cristo tenía hermanos y hermanas, pero no hermanos(as) de sangre.
Escrito: 8 de Abril del 2007 (corregido el 9-Abril 2007)
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The Buffalo Tree A haunting, lyrical story. – Meaghan Good – Venedocia, Ohio USA
When twelve-year-old Sura got caught clipping hoodies, they slapped with a six-month sentence in Hamstock, a juvenile detention center. Most juvenile detention centers keep you until you’ve reformed. At Hamstock, they keep you until they feel like letting you go.
This book, written in the language of the street, details Sura serving time at the center with his patch mate and best friend Coly Jo, who got sent up for breaking into people’s homes to watch them sleep. As Sura somehow breaks through the mire and rises to the top, Coly Jo is beaten down both physically and emotionally. At the end Sura is set free, and has learned to appreciate life at home with his mother, though I doubt he’ll be there for long.
An excellent novel, once you learn to decipher the street slang. Not that the slang is bad; it adds to the credibility of the story and I learned lots of new words.
The book is narrated by Sura, a 13 year old boys who is in hamstock, a juvenile detetion center. The book had some great lessons about life such as that friendship will never die and you should never give it up. It has alot of painful things such as when Sura found the squirrel tail buried in the ground, because it belonged to Coly Jo’s, his friend. It also had some action such as when Sura was shadowing the guard and he almost got caught by the gaurd. The story was kind of hard to understand because of all of the slang invovled. It had alot of funny parts in the story too, such as when Sura was talking about Nurse Rushing and how Sura was making fun of Boo, Hodge, and Dean Petty. This book had alot of profanity and some were funny and others weren’t. This book had alot of depressing moments too, like when Coly Jo was put in the stink hole. Coly Jo was a great friend to Sura. I really enjoyed this story and I would recommend this book to any teenager to read. : Getting caught changed Sura’s life.
He’s been shipped off to Hamstock, a juvenile detention center that’s worse than most. At the Stock they don’t try to keep juvies till they reform. They just keep guys till they feel like letting them go.
Sura and his patchmate, a kid named Coly Jo, look out for each other and try to evade the Stock’s sadistic games. But things turn bad last for Coly Jo, and Sura helplessly watches his friend’s descent into hell, determined to escape with his own body and spirit intact — if he can.
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Rent (2005 Movie Soundtrack) Well watched – Dawn E. Giesman –
My teenage daughter has almost worn this cd out listening to it so much. Perfect disk and case. Thanks.
I ordered this for one of my grandaughters at her request. The transaction was perfect, and the soundtrack was exactly what she wanted. Anything that makes one of my teenage grandaughters happy is bound to be worth buying. RENT: One of the longest-running shows (since 1996) in the history of Broadway, and one of its most beloved, RENT was the winner of the Pulitzer Prize for Drama and four Tony Awards, including Best Musical. Based on Puccini’s classic opera “La Boheme,” Jonathan Larson’s revolutionary rock opera tells the story of a group of bohemians struggling for success and acceptance while enduring the obstacles of poverty, illness and the AIDS epidemic in New York’s gritty East Village. Now the powerful musical marks its 10th year on stage by coming to the big screen, accompanied by RENT The Motion Picture Soundtrack, produced by Rob Cavallo (Green Day, Goo Goo Dolls, Alanis Morissette). It’s not that surprising that Rent, a successful musical with a strong youth following, would have transferred from the New York stage to film. What is remarkable is that the material has aged very well and that most of the original cast have made the trip to the silver screen. This is no small feat since nearly ten years have elapsed since the show’s Off-Broadway debut and the film’s release. When it opened in 1996, Jonathan Larson’s rock musical based on neobohemian life in the gritty East Village felt a bit hackneyed at times; now, Rent feels more like a Broadway fantasy about life on the edge, and that new element actually works in the show’s favor. The two cast additions–Rosario Dawson (replacing Daphne Rubin-Vega as Mimi) and Tracie Thomas (replacing Fredi Walker as Joanne)–act well and with emotion, but aren’t quite powerful enough. They are eclipsed by vets such as Anthony Rapp, Idina Menzel, Wilson Jermaine Heredia, and Taye Diggs, who of course had the chance to perfect their roles on stage and can also be heard on the original cast recording. It’s a pleasure to hear these stalwarts New York performers strut their stuff again. This soundtrack will please the show’s fans, and probably attract new ones. –Elisabeth Vincentelli Rent (2005 Movie Soundtrack)
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Rent (Widescreen Two-Disc Special Edition) Wonderful – Dawn E. Giesman –
Thank you very much the movie and case turned out wonderful. No problems at all. My daughter very much enjoys it. Thanks.
I saw this first on IFC and had to have a copy.
Don’t miss the bonus stuff! Knowing the back story makes the whole project more meaningful.
I also recommend seeing the stage version; some things just work better on stage.
Beware! You may find these tunes running through your head for weeks aferwards.
– Bart SONY PICTURES HOME ENT: IN NEW YORK’S EAST VILLAGE, A GROUP OF BOHEMIANS STRUGGLE TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES THROUGH THEIR ART & STRIVE FOR SUCCESS & ACCEPTANCE WHILE ENDURING THE OBSTACLES OF POVERTY, ILLNESS & THE AIDS EPIDEMIC. Rent, the show that in 1996 gave voice to a Broadway generation, has finally become an energetic, passionate, and touching movie musical. Based loosely on Puccini’s La Bohème, it focuses on the year in the life of a group of friends in New York’s East Village–”bohemians” who live carefree lives of art, music, sex, and drugs. Well, carefree until Mark, an aspiring filmmaker (Anthony Rapp), and Roger, an aspiring songwriter (Adam Pascal), find out they owe a year’s rent to Benny (Taye Diggs), a former friend who had promised them free residence when he married the landlord’s daughter. Roger has also attracted the attention of his downstairs neighbor, Mimi (Rosario Dawson), while Mark’s former girlfriend, Maureen (Idina Menzel), has found a new romance in a lawyer named Joanne (Tracie Thoms). Philosophy professor Tom (Jesse L. Martin) finds his soul mate in drag queen Angel (Wilson Jermaine Heredia). But because this is the late-’80s, the threat of AIDS is always present.
The remarkable thing about Rent the movie is that nearly 10 years after the show debuted on Broadway, six of the eight principals return in the roles they originated. They’re a bit older than would be ideal for their characters, but they do have the advantage of having learned the show directly from creator Jonathan Larson (who died of an aortic aneurysm while the show was in previews), plus they started young–we’re not exactly talking Sarah Brightman and Michael Crawford here. Alongside a polished performance like Rapp’s–sometimes observer-commentator, sometimes participant in two of the score’s showstoppers, “The Tango Maureen” and “La Vie Boheme”–the two new additions (Thoms in place of Fredi Walker, Dawson in place of the edgier Daphne Rubin-Vega) slip comfortably into the ensemble; the pivotal Dawson makes a seductive case as Mimi when she tempts Roger in the mesmerizing “Light My Candle” or burns up the stage of the Catscratch Club in “Out Tonight.” Moviegoers who have an aversion to people who break into song while walking down the street probably won’t have their minds changed by Rent (even if they are singing rock songs), and the gritty subject matter and lack of big-name stars make it unlikely to cross over to general audiences the way Chicago did. But fans of musicals should find “Seasons of Love” as stirring as ever, and the show’s passionate admirers–the “Rentheads”–probably couldn’t have wished for a more sympathetic director than Rent fan Chris Columbus, or a more faithful representation of the show they love. –David Horiuchi
On the DVD
Three powerful musical numbers cut from the final film are the highlight of the two-disc DVD. In the aftermath of the funeral scene, Anthony Rapp sings “Halloween,” and he, Adam Pascal, and Rosario Dawson share “Goodbye Love” (both songs were in the stage version). Then in an alternate ending, the cast finishes “No Day But Today” on the bare stage on which the film began. There are worthwhile arguments for why these scenes were cut or replaced, so it’s fortunate that the DVD lets us see these at all. Those musical numbers have optional commentary by director Chris Columbus, Rapp, and Pascal (two other cut scenes have no commentary), including one funny moment in which Rapp explains in great detail the technical challenge of shooting “Halloween” only to have Columbus say, “Yeah, but I don’t know if that’s the take we used.” The three also provide commentary on the film itself, with Columbus discussing various decisions, criticizing the critics, and marveling “I still don’t know how we got the PG-13,” and Rapp and Pascal occasionally recalling differences in the stage version.
The other whopper of a feature is No Day But Today, a nearly two-hour documentary that uses video clips, still photographs, and interviews with family and friends to celebrate the short life of Jonathan Larson and his creation. Topics include his early interest in musical theater (”I want to write the Hair for the ’90s.”), the support of Stephen Sondheim, the impact of the AIDS epidemic, the long and difficult road of Rent (casting the show, Larson learning to collaborate, the transfer to a Broadway stage, and the Rentheads), and Larson’s tragic death. The last 20 minutes covers the making of the film, director Chris Columbus, the decision to rely on most of the original cast (the only two principals who didn’t appear in the movie, Daphne Rubin-Vega and Fredi Walker-Browne, are interviewed in earlier segments, but only mentioned in passing here), recording sessions, and location shooting. If the movie of Rent was a tribute to Jonathan Larson, the DVD is all that and more, a moving and incredibly detailed look at an extraordinary talent whom the world lost far too soon. –David Horiuchi
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